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A late 18th c bum rump

In my continued effort to not have this blog turn into one of those sites where the blogger starts a pattern line and never talks about anything but her patterns ever again, I present my latest totally-not-Scroop-related* historical sewing make:

Making a 1780s bum rump thedreamstress.com

A 1780s bum rump!

To make my bum rump I referred to:

The American Duchess book has a great tutorial on making a 1780s bum rump, and I used it as my starting point.

Making a 1780s bum rump thedreamstress.com

However, I have noticed it makes a slightly ‘corner-y’ bum, that pokes out in a square at the sides. It still looks amazing under anything with a full skirt, like an ‘Italian’ gown or a polonaise, but not so good if worn with a little jacket.

To see if I could make a less poke-y shape, I consulted Kendra’s great blog post, which has been the inspiration for most of my 18th c skirt support exploration. She doesn’t try this type of bum rump, but it’s still a great place to see how different shapes affect the silhouette, and to find many of the period quotes mentioning skirt supports in one place.

I also went back to the source of the AD tutorial, The Bum Shop:

The Bum Shop, 1785. Lewis Walpole Library
The Bum Shop, 1785. Lewis Walpole Library

The three separate-bum rumps hanging on the top wall of the shop all have a much rounder, shorter silhouette than the AD pattern. Of course, it’s a satirical print: the artist was not a bum maker or patternmaker, and we can assume any shape would be exaggerated.

Slightly later, and showing a different type of bum enhancer (one which fascinatingly, seems to be built into drawers), is The Virgin Shapes Warehouse. It also shows a very round bum, but with these ones the padding has moved entirely to the back, with no fullness over the hips at all.

The Virgin Shapes Warehouse, Ansell, Charles, printmaker. Publish’d Sepr. 1st, 1799, by S.W. Fores, No. 50 Piccadilly, 1799, Lewis Walpole Library, 799.09.01.03

To get my shape, I cut out the pattern gives in the AD book and then trimmed away the corners until I got a shape that’s slightly more an oval, and less a rectangle with rounded corners (image shows the pieces partway through the process).

Making a 1780s bum rump thedreamstress.com

I was scared to do too much: if I do this again I’d make it even rounder, with no suggestion of corners at all.

Then it was on to lots and lots and lots of boring/meditative (depending on which way you look at it) hemming.

Making a 1780s bum rump thedreamstress.com

Then I sewed my bum cushions together, and turned them out. I’m using an inner bag of down-proof cotton fabric, and an outer bag of linen twill, for maximum non-scratchyness.

Then I pleated my half-petticoat on to my waistband, and pleated the bags on to that. The AD pattern says not to worry about what your pleating looks like, but I did some experimenting, and I think that the direction and placement of your petticoat and bag pleating does affect the final shape. By rearranging my pleats and where the fullness of the petticoat was concentrated I could get more or less bump in the centre of the ‘cheeks’, especially once I did some tacking.

With the pleating rearranged to my satisfaction, I stuffed:

Making a 1780s bum rump thedreamstress.com

I’d hoped to use wool rovings for my stuffing material, instead of feathers, but the source I’d used for earlier rumps is no longer supplying rovings, and I wasn’t able to find another source in time to get them before the lockdown, so I reverted to feathers and cannibalised my oldest/yuckiest feather pillow.

Making a 1780s bum rump thedreamstress.com

Feathers make a MESS!

Making a 1780s bum rump thedreamstress.com

Then I played with pleat placement on my bum-cheeks, and basted them in place.

Then it was on to finishing the waistband (definitely a job for a thimble).

Making a 1780s bum rump thedreamstress.com

And hemming the ends of the waistband, which is always my favourite part, because you feel so incredibly virtuous hemming ends!

Making a 1780s bum rump thedreamstress.com

And done!

Making a 1780s bum rump thedreamstress.com

Well, actually, not quite. I put the bum rumps on my dressform and played with tacking the rumps to the half petticoat in places, to hold the corners down, and to hold the fullness in the desired position. Under a light (like a silk taffeta) petticoat it makes a definite difference.

Making a 1780s bum rump thedreamstress.com

Questions people have asked:

What’s the point of the half petticoat?

Well, first, the only period source I know of for this style of bum rump (The Bum Shop) shows a half petticoat – and presumably they had a reason for it.

While I don’t always aim for strict historical accuracy with my costuming, I do find that at least trying to do things as close as possible to the way they were done in-period often teaches you a lot about why a garment was constructed that way, and can lead to better construction techniques. So, since the primary source shows a half petticoat, you should at least try one!

One obvious reason for the half petticoat is more protection from whatever you filled your bum rump with. The known historical filling is cork (ground), which presumably might be a bit scratchy (I’d love to try a ground cork bum some day, but only once I find a more efficient way to source it than collecting wine corks from friends and burning out a dozen blender engines). The AD book has you fill the rump with down – and eventually a few feathers will work through even very densely woven fabric and scratch. So another layer = less chance of itchy scratchy pokeys.

In making my rump and experimenting with shaping and rearranging fullness I also discovered the rump can be tacked to the petticoat in places, holding the fullness where you want it, and preventing that ‘corner-y’ look I so wanted to avoid.

Is it heavy?

It doesn’t feel heavy when I’m wearing it, but it certainly feels heavy when you pick it up!

According to my kitchen scale it weighs 726g or 1lb 9oz.

Why do you prefer to use wool instead of feathers?

Period sources describe cork rumps and rumps stuffed with crin (horsehair).

AD may have found an 18th c bum pad source that uses feather as a filler that I’m not aware of, or they suggests feathers based on the 1838 Workwoman’s Guide’s bustle pattern, which tells you to stuff a bum pad with “either swan’s or the best goose down”. While the book is half a century later than the rump, it does have many patterns and sewing techniques that are identical to 18thc ones, so it’s likely that feathers was a legitimate bum rump filler in the 18th c.

Wool is also closer to crin (a known 18th c rump filler) than feathers in how it behaves. Like crin it has loft, springiness, and the ability to be moulded into a shape which it holds for a long period (until it really gets compressed).

The weight is part of the reason I prefer to use wool as a stuffing: you get more loft for weight with wool than feathers.

Wool is definitely plausible for 18th c stuffings: any woman in the vicinity of a sheep farm would have had access to wool: especially the coarser, poorer quality stuff left over.

And finally, I live in NZ! Wool is what we do! All the sources for feathers/down I’ve found are imported from Asia. Using wool let’s me support a small local business, instead of a big multinational.

But this time I used feathers, because sometimes you make-do. And I enjoyed the opportunity to experiment with feathers. Someday I’ll make a wool one and really be able to compare how the two behave and wear.

Making a 1780s bum rump thedreamstress.com

Thanks to the ladies at American Duchess & Kendra at Demode for their awesome patterns, tutorials and research!

As a bonus, because I didn’t manage to buy wool rovings for this, it fits into the July 2020 HSM Challenge: No Buy

What the item is: A ca. 1785 Bum Rump  

How it fits the challenge:  The linen was inherited from a friends great-aunt, the feather-proof cotton came from a scrap bag someone gave me, the down was a cannibalised pillow. I did buy the thread and tape at op shops years ago, but there was no purchasing done for this challenge!

Material:  linen twill, down proof cotton.

Pattern: the American Duchess 18th c Dressmaking book, and period sources.

Year:  ca. 1785

Notions:  cotton thread, cotton tape.

How historically accurate is it?  It matches the one period image of a similar garment well, and the materials are all plausible. It’s unlikely the bum bags would have been double-layer in-period. 70% maybe?

Hours to complete:  about 12

First worn:  Only to fit a 1780s petticoat over it.

Total cost:  $1 or less

* actually I lied. I can’t promise this won’t end up being used with a future Scroop + Virgil’s pattern 😜

The Robin Dress: Tester Makes!

Pssst, don’t forget that the Robin Dress is 25% off for another 2 days only!

The Scroop Patterns Robin Dress scrooppatterns.com

I always rave about the testers for Scroop Patterns (and they always deserve it! So many amazing women have helped make the patterns as awesome as they are), but the testing group for the Robin Dress deserves an extra special shout-out, for pattern testing as the world went crazy, their lives became infinitely more stressful and complicated, and their countries went into lockdown. I’m so grateful for the work they put in, and for helping me to complete this process.

Testers help ensure that a pattern fits just right on a wide range of bodies. They follow the instructions and let me know if they are clear, and will make sense to the average sewist across the world. They point out all the bits I could make better – and the patterns are better for all their input.

And they provide lots of inspiration of fabrics and notions! (so dangerous – I go away wanting a half dozen more versions to use all their ideas!)

Here are the tester makes!

Romy-Krystal of @SewLike

I love the tiny plaid Romy-Krystal chose for her Robin Dress. It’s so fun and cheerful, and has just enough body to give stucture to the bell sleeves. And the way she used the stronger yellow stripe to frame the front buttons is just perfection.

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by @sewlike

She made View A, with the View B length. And the fit is perfection!

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by @sewlike

Eva’s Kleidertruhe

I’m extremely envious both of Eva’s beautiful blue Robin Dress, and the blossoming trees in her backyard!

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by Eva ´s Kleidertruhe

She made View B with the View A length.

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by Eva ´s Kleidertruhe

Claire

Claire made her gorgeous Robin in black and white linen chambray. Such a classic look, with the fun twist of vintage lingerie buttons to fasten it 🖤

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress

She used the View B sleeves and View A length & pockets – with contrast bias hem.

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress

Alyssa of The Sewing Goatherd @thesewinggoatherd

I like to have a mix of experienced testers, and people who are new to testing, and testers I’ve worked with before, and testers I’ve never worked with, for every pattern. It ensures that I get a range of viewpoints and perspectives on the pattern, and that some of those viewpoints are familiar with my usual fit and instructions, and can point out if I’m doing something really differently to what I usually do. 

Alyssa is one of the testers I’ve worked with a lot, because she’s great at testing — really thoughtful, and notices all sorts of things I could improve. 

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by @thesewinggoatherd

Plus, she takes photos with baby goats! Don’t you love her photos? They look like an English countryside themed photoshoot for Vogue!

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by @thesewinggoatherd

Plus, she her mother like the dress so much she asked for one too!

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by @thesewinggoatherd

The perfect tribute to a dress named after my mother!

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by @thesewinggoatherd

Kristina of @stitchwitchkris

Kristina added the cutest touches to her Robin Dress: yellow piping to highlight the sleeves, pocket, and a little back belt she added on.

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by @StitchWitchKris

She made View B in a viscose/rayon floral. Also, can we take a moment to appreciate how beautifully her hair matches her painting! I have total hair envy.

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by @StitchWitchKris

Marion of @marion.v.roussel

When Marion applied to be a tester I fell in love with her incredibly chic instagram, and her Robin dress did not disappoint – even though it was only meant to be her toile, and her final dress got derailed by the pandemic.

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by @marion.v.roussel

I love the black and the addition of a belt as an accessory. Instead of buttons, she added snaps: a fabulous modern touch.

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by @marion.v.roussel

And the dress has a secret. It’s not actually black! It’s overdyed secondhand fabric. #Reuse is my favourite kind of sewing!

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by @marion.v.roussel

Melanie of Following the Thread

Melanie chose this lovely floral for her Robin Dress, and I think it’s just perfect.

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by Following the Thread

She had to shorten the dress slightly to fit her petite frame, but otherwise she made no adjustments. Check out her blog post for a full review with all the details.

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by Following the Thread

@Anne.Szeliski

Anne chose a lovely light rayon/viscose for her Robin. It flutters beautifully in the breeze – and she got to test that to its full potential when she got photos of it just before her area went into lockdown.

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by @anne.szelinski

I love these photos. There’s such a sense of fun and lightness in them.

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by @anne.szelinski

Florence @brushstrokesandstitches

Florence’s cherry print viscose really shows the 1940s influence of the pattern beautifully, and is fabulous paired with a bright red bias for the bias hem option.

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by @brushstrokesandstitches

She looks gorgeous in it! She made View A with the View B length.

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by @brushstrokesandstitches

Ellen of @sewingthroughthecenturies

Ellen chose a little dot on white to emphasise the dresses retro vibe.

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by @sewingthroughthecenturies

Her fabric was quite sheer, so she lined it, which give the dress body and a lovely sculptural effect. She made View A.

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by @sewingthroughthecenturies

And finally, a very fun set of photos to end with!

Emily @emsisfab

Not only did Emily make a fabulous Robin Dress, :

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by @emsisfab

She made a matching set (something that I hope no one is ever called on again to do for a pattern test!):

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by @emsisfab

Her dress is a straight View B:

Scroop Patterns Robin Dress by @emsisfab
Robe à la Française, 1760, Les Arts Decoratifs

Rate the Dress: Chine Française

This week’s rate the dress is focused on one of my favourite fabrics, and favourite dress styles (though neither necessarily means I love this example – when it’s your favourite you get picky!)

Last Week: a mid 19th-century ensemble in green florals and bows

Sooo…that was a no from you on the bows then? You thought they were too twee, or too clashing (or too twee and too clashing). The fringed plaid ribbon got a somewhat better response, with at least half of you thinking the mix of florals and checks was very effective. Of course, the other half thought it was very awful.

What was a win was my description of the dress’s style as ‘demure fussiness

A confession: I liked the bows! I felt their hue freshened up the colours of the dress, and their non-matching-ness was so perfectly mid-Victorian, and exactly the note of levity the dress needed. Lisa, Vivian, Paula & I can be team #gobowsgo (apologies if I missed any other bow champions!) (and extra mega-bonus points if you get the reference).

The Total: 7.4 out of 10

A few 2s & 3s really pull the scores down!

This week: a Robe à la Française in chine a la branche

This week’s Rate the Dress is a Robe à la Française in warp-printed silk, or chine a la branche – the distinctive soft, blurry pattern made by dyeing the warp threads of a silk before weaving.

Robe à la Française, 1760, Les Arts Decoratifs
Robe à la Française, 1760, Les Arts Decoratifs

Les Arts Decoratifs dates this to 1760. I wonder if it’s not from the very tail end of the 1760s: the flatter, more restrained trim and compere front seem more like a 1770s Française.

Robe à la Française, 1760, Les Arts Decoratifs
Robe à la Française, 1760, Les Arts Decoratifs

I also think it’s shown over paniers that are a tiny bit too big, and a tiny bit too high: it’s pulling awkwardly over them on the side views.

Robe à la Française, 1760, Les Arts Decoratifs
Robe à la Française, 1760, Les Arts Decoratifs

The small issue of display aside, what do you think of this française, with its careful pattern mirroring across the petticoat, skirt fronts and down the back pleats, and pattern on pattern trim, which almost disappears on the ground fabric?

Rate the Dress on a Scale of 1 to 10

A reminder about rating — feel free to be critical if you don’t like a thing, but make sure that your comments aren’t actually insulting to those who do like a garment.  Phrase criticism as your opinion, rather than a flat fact. Our different tastes are what make Rate the Dress so interesting.  It’s no fun when a comment implies that anyone who doesn’t agree with it, or who would wear a garment, is totally lacking in taste. 

(as usual, nothing more complicated than a .5.  I also hugely appreciate it if you only do one rating, and set it on a line at the very end of your comment