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Evening Dress, silk and blonde lace, 1815, said to have been worn by Miss Mary Ann Knapp and Miss Sarah Ann Knapp, who were born in 1802 and 1803, respectively, Helen Larson private collection sold by Whitakers Auctions

Rate the Dress: Yellow & Blonde late Regency

I have a confession. This week’s Rate the Dress is a backup. I had the perfect thing picked out, but when I when to write up this post…the MFA Boston’s collection website was down! So I grabbed a random thing off my Rate the Dress possibilities list. And that’s what you get!

Last Week a 1920s dress of voided velvet in vibrant orange

Not everyone was sure that they personally could get away with wearing last week’s 20s frock. For me that’s the joy of Rate the Dress: appreciating all the things that wouldn’t suit you, but are still masters of what they are!

Despite the little question about wearability, most of you loved the frock. A couple couldn’t get past that classic ’20s shape, and a few of you pointed out that it really was just a very basic 20s dress, albeit in a very nice fabric.

The Total: 9.5 out of 10

Most appropriately to its colour, I think we could say this was a marmalade dress, instead of a marmite dress. Significantly more universally popular, but with a few naysayers.

This week: a 1810s dress is very, very yellow silk.

Although this wasn’t my first pick for Rate the Dress this week, I think that in this case necessity may have been a happy accident.

Evening Dress, silk and blonde lace, 1815, said to have been worn by Miss Mary Ann Knapp and Miss Sarah Ann Knapp, who were born in 1802 and 1803, respectively, Helen Larson private collection sold by Whitakers Auctions

I’m always a fan of yellow (even if I personally think a garment is hideous, I appreciate its yellowness!). Plus, this week’s dress looks like the historically accurate version of some of the frocks from the current most-talked about costume drama.

Evening Dress, silk and blonde lace, 1815, said to have been worn by Miss Mary Ann Knapp and Miss Sarah Ann Knapp, who were born in 1802 and 1803, respectively,  Helen Larson private collection sold by Whitakers Auctions

Evening Dress, silk and blonde lace, 1815, said to have been worn by Miss Mary Ann Knapp and Miss Sarah Ann Knapp, who were born in 1802 and 1803, respectively, Helen Larson private collection sold by Whitakers Auctions

I haven’t actually seen said drama (mostly because I’ve managed to watch about 6 hours of anything since Christmas – the weather is nice and my life is busy, but also because I like my drama to be as un-dramatic as possible, and I get the impression that’s not Bridgertons’ goal), but I’ve seen all the articles about its costumes.

Evening Dress, silk and blonde lace, 1815, said to have been worn by Miss Mary Ann Knapp and Miss Sarah Ann Knapp, who were born in 1802 and 1803, respectively,  Helen Larson private collection sold by Whitakers Auctions

Evening Dress, silk and blonde lace, 1815, said to have been worn by Miss Mary Ann Knapp and Miss Sarah Ann Knapp, who were born in 1802 and 1803, respectively, Helen Larson private collection sold by Whitakers Auctions

This dress is a typical mid-late 1810s evening dress, made interesting by its vivid colour and lavish Renaissance-inspired sleeves.

Evening Dress, silk and blonde lace, 1815, said to have been worn by Miss Mary Ann Knapp and Miss Sarah Ann Knapp, who were born in 1802 and 1803, respectively,  Helen Larson private collection sold by Whitakers Auctions

Evening Dress, silk and blonde lace, 1815, said to have been worn by Miss Mary Ann Knapp and Miss Sarah Ann Knapp, who were born in 1802 and 1803, respectively, Helen Larson private collection sold by Whitakers Auctions

The dress fastens at the upper back and waist with ties (and possibly a hook). This simple opening is very common on 1810s and 20s dresses, where modesty would be preserved by the undergarments, even if a small gap slipped open in the dress.

Evening Dress, silk and blonde lace, 1815, said to have been worn by Miss Mary Ann Knapp and Miss Sarah Ann Knapp, who were born in 1802 and 1803, respectively,  Helen Larson private collection sold by Whitakers Auctions

Evening Dress, silk and blonde lace, 1815, said to have been worn by Miss Mary Ann Knapp and Miss Sarah Ann Knapp, who were born in 1802 and 1803, respectively, Helen Larson private collection sold by Whitakers Auctions

It features scalloped rouleaux hem decorations, trimmed with blonde lace (follow the link to read the history of blonde lace).

Evening Dress, silk and blonde lace, 1815, said to have been worn by Miss Mary Ann Knapp and Miss Sarah Ann Knapp, who were born in 1802 and 1803, respectively,  Helen Larson private collection sold by Whitakers Auctions

Evening Dress, silk and blonde lace, 1815, said to have been worn by Miss Mary Ann Knapp and Miss Sarah Ann Knapp, who were born in 1802 and 1803, respectively, Helen Larson private collection sold by Whitakers Auctions

The lining and sash of the dress were both replaced in the 20th century. The hem trim is so large I wonder if it also might be a 20th century addition. However, it and the lace both match the much finer and more precise embellishments of the sleeve. But could the lace also be a late addition on the sleeve?

Evening Dress, silk and blonde lace, 1815, said to have been worn by Miss Mary Ann Knapp and Miss Sarah Ann Knapp, who were born in 1802 and 1803, respectively,  Helen Larson private collection sold by Whitakers Auctions

Evening Dress, silk and blonde lace, 1815, said to have been worn by Miss Mary Ann Knapp and Miss Sarah Ann Knapp, who were born in 1802 and 1803, respectively, Helen Larson private collection sold by Whitakers Auctions

The possible alterations are one mystery with this dress, and the date is another. If the provenance is correct, the wearers of this dress would have been in their very early teens when they first wore the dress. It’s a very mature style for a 13 year old, and certainly seems to be shaped to accomodate a bust. I suspect it’s more likely that the dress dates to 1818 or so, or was actually worn by another member of the Knapp family.

So, a very inconclusive dress. All we’ll really be able to decide is how much we like it! What do you think? Is it garish and tacky? Or joyfully exuberant?

Evening Dress, silk and blonde lace, 1815, said to have been worn by Miss Mary Ann Knapp and Miss Sarah Ann Knapp, who were born in 1802 and 1803, respectively,  Helen Larson private collection sold by Whitakers Auctions

Evening Dress, silk and blonde lace, 1815, said to have been worn by Miss Mary Ann Knapp and Miss Sarah Ann Knapp, who were born in 1802 and 1803, respectively, Helen Larson private collection sold by Whitakers Auctions

Rate the Dress on a Scale of 1 to 10

A reminder about rating — feel free to be critical if you don’t like a thing, but make sure that your comments aren’t actually insulting to those who do like a garment.  Phrase criticism as your opinion, rather than a flat fact. Our different tastes are what make Rate the Dress so interesting.  It’s no fun when a comment implies that anyone who doesn’t agree with it, or who would wear a garment, is totally lacking in taste.  

As usual, nothing more complicated than a .5.  I also hugely appreciate it if you only do one rating, and set it on a line at the very end of your comment.

Frou Frou Francaise thedreamstress.com

Rococo Ridiculousness in Wellington

Last week it was Georgian shenanigans in the Wairarapa, this week we’re up to Rococo ridiculousness right here in Wellington!

Frou Frou Francaise thedreamstress.com

These photos are proof that sometimes taking things seriously definitely isn’t the right way to go.

When Nina and I scheduled our francaise photoshoot with her photographer friend Leon of @apped_as I wanted photos in the gardens with the spring rengarenga lily bloom. He wanted photos in the Wellington train station with its fabulous ceilings.

So, we did both!

The serious costume photos? Eh, they are OK. I’m stiff and posed, and you can tell we’re very cold.

My favourite photos? The ones where we’re just being silly and playing with the preposterousness of our Francaise and the modern world interacting.

Frou Frou Francaise thedreamstress.com
Frou Frou Francaise thedreamstress.com
Frou Frou Francaise thedreamstress.com

And my absolute favourite photos? Those happened after we’d spent a bunch of time freezing our paniers off standing in front of the open doors of the train station so Leon could catch our dresses billowing in the wind. We were cold and tired and hungry, and still had to take garden pictures.

But you know what the Wellington train station has?

A supermarket!

Frou Frou Francaise thedreamstress.com

Drinks and chocolate to the rescue!

Frou Frou Francaise thedreamstress.com

What are paniers for if not to fill with chocolate?

Frou Frou Francaise thedreamstress.com
Frou Frou Francaise thedreamstress.com

Did we bemuse the other shoppers and staff? Umm…yeah… But this is Wellington, so everyone just pretended that they were much too cool and cosmopolitan to be surprised by two ladies in full 18th century regalia stocking up on coconut water and Whittakers!

Frou Frou Francaise thedreamstress.com

So they basically ignored us. Except for the little girl who wanted to know if we were princesses…

I told her we were even better – we were teachers and costumers! (I’m not sure she was convinced).

All photos by Leon, colour balance and post-processing by me.

Dress, 1927-1928, plastic, silk, Gift of Mrs. Herbert O. Johnson, Goldstein Museum of Design 1981.033.032

Rate the Dress: 1920s voided velvet

The last few Rate the Dresses have been quite subdued and muted in their colour scheme. That means it’s time for something bright! How about..orange? And velvet!

Last Week: an 1880s dress with embroidered cherries

I really wasn’t sure how people would feel about last week’s dress. It was so unlike most 1880s garments. Well…most of you loved it! And then some of you really, really didn’t like it, and thought it resembled a straitjacket, and looked ready to scold you. It would be the only cherry embroidered straitjacket to ever exist, that’s for sure! There was also a small group who thought it had definite possibilities, but needed accessories.

The Total: 8.5 out of 10

Just a fraction of a point up from the week before.

Can this week do better?

This week: a 1920s dress of voided velvet in vibrant orange

I felt that there was something a bit staid about last week’s dress, despite its perky pleats and cherry embroidery. This week’s dress, in contrast, is decidedly playful.

Dress, 1927-1928, plastic, silk, Gift of Mrs. Herbert O. Johnson,  Goldstein Museum of Design 1981.033.032
Dress, 1927-1928, plastic, silk, silk velvet, Gift of Mrs. Herbert O. Johnson,
Goldstein Museum of Design 1981.033.032

The dress is made of voided or ‘devore’ silk velvet in dark orange, with a border pattern of abstract roses and interlocking arches.

Dress, 1927-1928, plastic, silk, Gift of Mrs. Herbert O. Johnson,  Goldstein Museum of Design 1981.033.032
Dress, 1927-1928, plastic, silk, silk velvet, Gift of Mrs. Herbert O. Johnson,
Goldstein Museum of Design 1981.033.032

The velvet body of the dress is cut in a straight rectangle from shoulder to hip. It has long sleeves with very low, dropped armscyes, forming a ‘batwing’ effect.

Dress, 1927-1928, plastic, silk, Gift of Mrs. Herbert O. Johnson,  Goldstein Museum of Design 1981.033.032
Dress, 1927-1928, plastic, silk, silk velvet, Gift of Mrs. Herbert O. Johnson,
Goldstein Museum of Design 1981.033.032

The sleeves are made of a light silk chiffon in the same shade of orange as the velvet.

Dress, 1927-1928, plastic, silk, Gift of Mrs. Herbert O. Johnson,  Goldstein Museum of Design 1981.033.032
Dress, 1927-1928, plastic, silk, silk velvet, Gift of Mrs. Herbert O. Johnson,
Goldstein Museum of Design 1981.033.032

The same chiffon is used to form sashes which fall from a low half-belt which wraps across the back of the dress. The sashes are fastened to the belt with ornamental buckles made from an early form of plastic.

Dress, 1927-1928, plastic, silk, Gift of Mrs. Herbert O. Johnson,  Goldstein Museum of Design 1981.033.032
Dress, 1927-1928, plastic, silk, Gift of Mrs. Herbert O. Johnson,
Goldstein Museum of Design 1981.033.032

The sleeves and sashes add movement to the dress, creating shape and interest out of the otherwise straight rectangle.

Dress, 1927-1928, plastic, silk, Gift of Mrs. Herbert O. Johnson,  Goldstein Museum of Design 1981.033.032
Dress, 1927-1928, plastic, silk, Gift of Mrs. Herbert O. Johnson,
Goldstein Museum of Design 1981.033.032

The dress would originally have been worn with a slip underneath, likely in a matching orange, but possibly in a skin tone. At this date it’s unlikely the underdress would have been cut on the bias, so even in a skin tone it would have been as straight as the outer dress, and would not have revealed the body as the mannequin is revealed in these photos.

What do you think? How does this rank as a 20s frock?

Rate the Dress on a Scale of 1 to 10

A reminder about rating — feel free to be critical if you don’t like a thing, but make sure that your comments aren’t actually insulting to those who do like a garment.  Phrase criticism as your opinion, rather than a flat fact. Our different tastes are what make Rate the Dress so interesting.  It’s no fun when a comment implies that anyone who doesn’t agree with it, or who would wear a garment, is totally lacking in taste. 

As usual, nothing more complicated than a .5.  I also hugely appreciate it if you only do one rating, and set it on a line at the very end of your comment.