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Louis de Carmontelle, La Marquise de Montesson, La Marquise de Crest and la Comtesse de Damas drinking tea, 1780

Horizontal or vertical? Striped sleeves on 1770s-1790s gowns & jackets

The sleeve patterns for the Scroop + Virgils Fine Goods Amalia, Angelica and Aidah patterns all give the option to cut the sleeves on the vertical or horizontal grainline.  This might not be obvious in  most fabrics, but it makes a huge difference when you’re working with stripes.

Aidah Angelica Amalia patterns ScroopPatterns.com

 

Why do we include both options? Because the 1770s-90s are a time of experimentation and transition in cutting and patternmaking techniques.  In the first 3/4 of the 18th century women’s sleeves are almost always cut so stripes run horizontally across the sleeves.  However, in the last quarter of the 18th c both grainlines are used, so stripes can run either way.

Let’s take a look at striped sleeves in 1770s-1790s dresses and jackets, and see how they are used:

Note: for all of these I’ve relied on the museum’s dating.  I’ve indicated where I think a more precise, or alternative, dating is more likely.

1770s:

For most of the 1770s, sleeves are cut so that the stripes run around the arm, and up and down the skirts and body:

A woman's sack and petticoat, English, 1770-75; purple and white striped silk with flowers, Spitalfields or French, 1770-75, Victoria and Albert Museum T.161&A-1961

A woman’s sack and petticoat, English, 1770-75; purple and white striped silk with flowers, Spitalfields or French, 1770-75, Victoria and Albert Museum, T.161&A-1961

Robe a  la Francaise 1770-1780 The Philadelphia Museum of Art

Robe à la française, manteau de robe, jupe et pièce d’estomac France, vers 1775 Pékin rayé, lancé, broché soie et lame argent ; gaze façonnée et imprimée, mignardises Achat, 1994 Inv. 994.2.1.A-C MAD, Paris

Robe à la française, manteau de robe, jupe et pièce d’estomac France, vers 1775 Pékin rayé, lancé, broché soie et lame argent ; gaze façonnée et imprimée, mignardises Achat, 1994 Inv. 994.2.1.A-C MAD, Paris

Alexander Roslin, Portrait of Sophia Magdalena of Denmark (1746—1813). Princess of Denmark 1746—1766, Crown Princess of Sweden 1766—1771, Queen of Sweden 1771—1792, NationalMuseum Sweden

Alexander Roslin, Portrait of Sophia Magdalena of Denmark (1746—1813), c. 1774. Princess of Denmark 1746—1766, Crown Princess of Sweden 1766—1771, Queen of Sweden 1771—1792, NationalMuseum Sweden

Woman’s Robe à la Polonaise (Close-bodied Gown), circa 1775 LACMA

Louis de Carmontelle, Madame la Comtesse de Belsunce, 1775

Louis de Carmontelle, Madame la Comtesse de Belsunce, 1775

Portrait of a Woman Drawing c. 1770-1781 Attributed to Catherine Lusurier (French, c. 1753–1781)

Portrait of a Lady by French School, ca 1772-85 France, the Bowes Museum

Portrait of a Lady by French School, ca 1772-85 France, the Bowes Museum

3/4 and elbow length sleeves are most common for most of the 1770s, but horizontal stripes are also used on full-length jacket sleeves (although I suspect this jacket is closer to the later end of its date range):

Rear view, pierrot ou caraco à l'anglaise, France, 1775-1785, Louis XVI. Striped silk mexicaine, rose satin stripes alternating with cream taffeta stripes brocaded with floral motifs and roses

Rear view, pierrot ou caraco à l’anglaise, France, 1775-1785, Louis XVI. Striped silk mexicaine, rose satin stripes alternating with cream taffeta stripes brocaded with floral motifs and roses

Around 1778 another option emerges: sleeves cut with the stripes running vertically down the upper arm.  This means that on dresses and jackets with long sleeves, the stripes run on the bias below the elbow:

Dress, unaltered, 1778–80, French, silk, Metropolitan Museum of Art, C.I.60.40.3

Dress, unaltered, 1778–80, French, silk, Metropolitan Museum of Art, C.I.60.40.3

1780s:

In the 1780s you see both cuts.  Horizontal:

Louis de Carmontelle, Mme la Marquise du Dreneux,1780

Louis de Carmontelle, Mme la Marquise du Dreneux, 1780

And, in this wonderful 1780 image, two very similar gowns, one with horizontal sleeve stripes, and one with vertical:

Louis de Carmontelle, La Marquise de Montesson, La Marquise de Crest and la Comtesse de Damas drinking tea, 1780

Louis de Carmontelle, La Marquise de Montesson, La Marquise de Crest and la Comtesse de Damas drinking tea, 1780

The number of images of vertically striped sleeves that can be firmly dated to 1780 demonstrate that the cut was well established by that date:

La Jeune Dame en robe bleue, the cover image, is a portrait of an unknown sitter by Adélaïde Labille-Guiard (1749–1803), pastel on paper, 622x510 mm, signed and dated 1780 private collection

La Jeune Dame en robe bleue, the cover image, is a portrait of an unknown sitter by Adélaïde Labille-Guiard (1749–1803), pastel on paper, 622×510 mm, signed and dated 1780 private collection

It also appears in early 1780s garments:

 

Robe a  l’anglaise, ca 1780 France, Museo de la Moda

Robe a l’anglaise, ca 1780,  France, Museo de la Moda

Louis de Carmontelle, The Farm Girls (Madame de la Houze and Mademoiselle de Longueil), ca. 1782. Photo Réunion des Musées Nationaux : Art Resource

Louis de Carmontelle, The Farm Girls (Madame de la Houze and Mademoiselle de Longueil), ca. 1782. Photo Réunion des Musées Nationaux : Art Resource

However, there are still images showing horizontal stripes, including in fashion plates which show the most a la mode trends:

Gallerie des Modes et Costumes Français, 1780

Gallerie des Modes et Costumes Français, 1780

And garments with horizontally striped sleeves.

Although this sacque is given a fairly wide date range, the width of the back pleating, use of cotton fabric, and styling of the front of the dress all suggest a mid 1780s date:

This française, with its unusual long sleeves, and compere front, is definitely a 1780s creation, but, like earlier française, continues to use horizontal stripes:

Robe à la française, France, vers 1780-1785 Taffetas changeant rayé, ombré Achat, 2009 MAD Paris Inv. 2009.2.1-2

Robe à la française, France, vers 1780-1785 Taffetas changeant rayé, ombré Achat, 2009 MAD Paris Inv. 2009.2.1-2

As do these two fitted-bodice gowns:

Robe à l’anglaise retroussée, 1780-85 From the Museu del Disseny

Robe à l’anglaise retroussée, 1780-85 From the Museu del Disseny

Robe à l’anglaise ca. 1780 From the Musée des Tissus et des Arts Décoratifs de Lyon

And this very a la modé portrait

Hester Lynch Piozzi (later Mrs Thrale), Unknown Italian artist oil on canvas 1785-1786, National Portrait Gallery, London

Hester Lynch Piozzi (Mrs Thrale), Unknown Italian artist oil on canvas 1785-1786, National Portrait Gallery, London

And these gowns:

Robe a l'Anglaise, ca. 1780-90 via The Mint Museum

Robe a l’Anglaise, ca. 1780-90 via The Mint Museum

Like many 18th century dresses, both of these may have been re-styled from earlier gowns, and would thus have the sleeve cuts of the original 1760s or 70s garments.

This Italian gown, which was one of the main inspirations for the Angelica gown, has vertically striped sleeves:

Robe à l'Anglaise (Italian Gown), 1780, Italy, Silk, silk thread embroidery, silk gauze, sequins Galleria del Costume di Palazzo Pitti

Robe à l’Anglaise (Italian Gown), 1780, Italy, Silk, silk thread embroidery, silk gauze, sequins Galleria del Costume di Palazzo Pitti

Robe à l'Anglaise (Italian Gown), 1780, Italy, Silk, silk thread embroidery, silk gauze, sequins Galleria del Costume di Palazzo Pitti

Robe à l’Anglaise (Italian Gown), 1780, Italy, Silk, silk thread embroidery, silk gauze, sequins Galleria del Costume di Palazzo Pitti

As does this frock, which was one of the main inspirations for the Aidah:

Robe à l'Anglaise, 1785–87, French, silk, Metropolitan Museum of Art, C.I.66.39a, b.jpg

Robe à l’Anglaise, 1785–87, French, silk, Metropolitan Museum of Art, C.I.66.39a, b.jpg

This fanciful creation, on the other hand, sports horizontal sleeve stripes, and a bias back:

Galerie des Modes, 46e Cahier, 5e Figure 1785

Galerie des Modes, 46e Cahier, 5e Figure 1785

As the 1780s progress vertical sleeve stripes become more and more common:

Redingote ca. 1786 From the Palazzo Mocenigo

Redingote ca. 1786 From the Palazzo Mocenigo

Woman’s Dress (Robe à l’anglaise), Unknown, France, 1785-1790, Costumes, Silk twill and silk plain-weave stripes LACMA

Woman’s Dress (Robe à l’anglaise), Unknown, France, 1785-1790, Costumes, Silk twill and silk plain-weave stripes LACMA

18th Century Peach Silk Bodice (actually a dress with the skirts cut off), sold on etsy

18th Century Peach Silk Bodice (actually a dress with the skirts cut off, probably 1780s re-made from earlier silk), sold on etsy

Fashion plate, 1780s

Fashion plate, 1780s

ca 1785

ca 1785

ca 1785

ca 1785

 

1780s Caraco and Petticoat, Musee Galliera

1780s Caraco and Petticoat, Musee Galliera

Jacket, ca. 1785, French, silk, linen, Purchase, Irene Lewisohn Bequest, Isabel Shults Fund and Millia Davenport and Zipporah Fleisher Fund, 1998, Metropolitan Museum of Art, 1998.253.1

Jacket, ca. 1785, French, silk, linen, Purchase, Irene Lewisohn Bequest, Isabel Shults Fund and Millia Davenport and Zipporah Fleisher Fund, 1998, Metropolitan Museum of Art, 1998.253.1

Pierrot jacket, 1780s, silk, Kyoto Costume Institute

Jacket, France, 1787-1795, silk, Les Arts Decoratifs 19856

Jacket, France, 1787-1795, silk, Les Arts Decoratifs 19856

1790s:

But there are examples of 1790s jackets with horizontal stripes:

Bodice, ca 1790, sold at auction

Bodice, ca 1790, sold at auction

Jacket, cotton, ca 1790

Jacket, cotton, ca 1790

Caraco, late 18th century. Cream and blue striped silk satin, sold by Drout

Caraco, late 18th century. Cream and blue striped silk satin, sold by Drout

As well as vertical:

Jacket, late 18th century, French, silk, Purchase, Irene Lewisohn Bequest, 2010, Metropolitan Museum of Art, 2010.151

Jacket, late 18th century, French, silk, Purchase, Irene Lewisohn Bequest, 2010, Metropolitan Museum of Art, 2010.151

1790 Striped silk Pierrot jacket, embroidered 'linon' petticoat, early 19th century whitework muslin fichu Bust approx 75cm:30in, waist 60 cm:23.5 in, Kerry Taylor Auctions

1790 Striped silk Pierrot jacket, embroidered ‘linon’ petticoat, early 19th century whitework muslin fichu Bust approx 75cm:30in, waist 60 cm:23.5 in, Kerry Taylor Auctions

Robe, 1790s, American, silk, Metropolitan Museum of Art, 1998.269

Robe, 1790s, American, silk, Metropolitan Museum of Art, 1998.269

What can we conclude from this?

  • There’s very little evidence for sleeves cut with stripes running vertically down the sleeves before 1778.
  • By 1780 sleeves there are numerous examples of sleeves cut with both vertical and horizontal stripes.
  • Vertically striped sleeves become more common throughout the 1780s, but there are still enough examples of horizontal stripes to show they remained common.
  • Examples of 1780s garments with horizontally striped sleeves include garments that may have been re-made from earlier gowns (so the horizontal stripes were a necessity) and examples of fashion plates (indicating that horizontal stripes were still considered fashionable).
  • Examples of sacque gowns (Française) with vertically striped sleeves are extraordinarily rare (Daniel Milco has pointed out there is one early 1770s sacque with vertically striped sleeves.  I know of no other examples).

So, if you want to do an accurate a pre-1778 impression, or are making a sacque gown, be sure to cut your sleeves so the stripes run around the arm.  For anything after 1778, cut your stripes in either direction – whichever suits your fabric and makes your heart happy!

Whatever you do, remember to cut the mock ups of your 18th c sleeves in the same direction as you intend to cut the final sleeves, so you can check how the different grainlines affect fit.

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Robe à l'Anglaise, 1785–87, French, silk, Metropolitan Museum of Art, C.I.66.39a, b.jpg

The Inspiration behind the Aidah Gown

We know many have you have already guessed the main inspiration behind View B of the Aidah Gown, but what about all the other things that went into the pattern?  Here’s a look at the inspiration and research behind the Aidah Gown!

Image shows the front page of a sewing pattern, with front and back views of an 18th century Italian Gown with pointed and tabbed front, and a teal banner reading "The Aidah Gown, 1775-1790"

The Aidah Gown pattern had its origins in the same research that gave rise to the Angelica Gown pattern.  We knew we wanted to make an Italian gown pattern, and we knew we wanted it to be really good, and really good begins with LOTS of research.  We began by looked at extant Italian gowns in private collections and museums.  We also assemble huge inspiration boards of items from online databases, noting details and similar design and construction elements.

And then we realised that there are so many options for Italian gowns that there was no way to include them all in one pattern.

So I organised things into spreadsheets, noting pattern cuts and techniques.  What elements appear together often?  What elements never appear together?

At the same time we tested.  What processes and techniques really work well together?  What combinations are very tricky to do.  How did they even do things like the tabbed bodices?

Breaking things down like this helped us to figure out what should be in the Angelica pattern, and what should be in the Aidah, so each pattern gave you a lot, was a completely distinct pattern, and each worked as beautifully as possible.

Here are the publicly shareable Italian gowns that inspired the Aidah…

The Aidah Gown pattern is available as a digital download from ScroopPatterns.com, and as a paper pattern from Virgil’s Fine Goods.

View A:

This gown was one of our primary inspiration pieces for View A.  It has all the elements: the moderate front point and wide front neckline, and the two panel back and lower squared-off back neckline.   

Isn’t the fabric spectacular?  I live in hope of finding something similar to make an Aidah with…

This silk gown at LACMA also features spectacular fabric, and also features the front point shape of the Aidah:

We also looked at some extant gowns in collections that we can’t show you, as well as every available published resource of Italian gowns.

View B:

Many of you will have already recognised the primary inspiration behind View B:

Robe à l'Anglaise, 1785–87, French, silk, Metropolitan Museum of Art, C.I.66.39a, b.jpg

Robe à l’Anglaise, 1785–87, French, silk, Metropolitan Museum of Art, C.I.66.39a, b.jpg

This pink and white striped satin gown is wildly popular in the historical costuming community, and that no surprise.  It’s gorgeous!

We also looked at:

Dress, 1780s, The Kyoto Costume Institute

And:

And:

Gown featured in 'The Texture of My Wardrobe' on display 2019-2020, museetdj@jouy-en-josas.fr

Gown featured in ‘The Texture of My Wardrobe’ on display 2019-2020, museetdj@jouy-en-josas.fr

The primary back inspiration for View B, with those beautiful straight seams that point down the back in a V, is this gorgeous gown, also from the Met:

This gown is has the side seams of the Angelica Gown.  If you wanted to replicate it exactly you could mash up the two patterns (Sewstine did a GORGEOUS recreation when she tested the Angelica Gown).

Interestingly, 1976.146a, b, shown behind the yellow gown, like the Aidah, does not have side seams:

We also looked at the back of this gown in the V&A:

And this gown which was sold by Augusta Auctions:

Closures:

The Aidah Gown has two fastening options: pinned closures and hooked closures.

It’s very hard to research closures on 18th century garments from museum images.  Gowns of this age are very fragile, and conservators often build interior supports to hold the gowns closed, and to distribute the stress of display as evenly as possible across the garment.

So our research on closures was based on looking at extant garments in collections, and on document extant garments in books.

Janet Arnold’s Patterns of Fashion 1 shows an Italian Gown described as “a polonaise in cream silk” (it’s not a polonaise – Arnold used the term incorrectly) with hooked fastening on Page 37, and patterned on Page 36.

Arnold has another example of an Italian Gown, this one described as an ‘open gown with matching petticoat’ that fastens with hooks and loops on page 40, and patterned out on Page 41.

Although it’s not an Italian Gown, Patterns of Fashion 6 shows a Sack Gown with a hooked front on pages 88 and 89.  It even has alternating hooks and loops.  The book also contains other examples of garments that fasten with hooks in various configurations.

Sleeves:

The Aidah has a two-piece sleeve pattern, in contrast to the Angelica’s one piece sleeve.  This is less common on extant Italian gowns, and more likely to show up on later gowns, but definitely existed.

A two piece sleeve made it easier to include a long-sleeved option.  There are very few extant examples Italian Gowns with long sleeves.  The gown sold by Augusta Auctions which also helped inspire the back seams is one of the few examples.  The long sleeves may be one of the things that was altered in the 1790s, although the gown also has signs of further, even more recent, alterations.

Although there isn’t a lot of evidence for long sleeves on Italian gowns, we included them for people who want to recreate film and theatre costumes with long sleeves, and for cosplayers, and so to make the pattern easier to alter to recreate some of the many fascinating transitional styles of the 1780s and 90s that do have long sleeves.

Although it’s not a dress, we did look at this jacket and petticoat from Colonial Williamsburg.

Woman’s Jacket and Petticoat worn by Ann Van Rensselaer, c. 1790. Albany, NY. Textile- India. Cotton chintz, mordant painted and dyed; tabby linen lining. The Colonial Williamsburg Foundation. 1990-10

Woman’s Jacket and Petticoat worn by Ann Van Rensselaer, c. 1790. Albany, NY. Textile- India. Cotton chintz, mordant painted and dyed; tabby linen lining. The Colonial Williamsburg Foundation. 1990-10

Jackets tend to have different construction techniques to gowns, but the pattern shapes of this jacket are similar to an Italian gown, just with a longer jacket.

Woman’s Jacket and Petticoat worn by Ann Van Rensselaer, c. 1790. Albany, NY. Textile- India. Cotton chintz, mordant painted and dyed; tabby linen lining. The Colonial Williamsburg Foundation. 1990-10.jpg

Woman’s Jacket and Petticoat worn by Ann Van Rensselaer, c. 1790. Albany, NY. Textile- India. Cotton chintz, mordant painted and dyed; tabby linen lining. The Colonial Williamsburg Foundation. 1990-10.jpg

The Aidah could easily be used as a base pattern to make a similar jacket, right down to the long sleeves.

And, of course, we hope lots of people use the long sleeves for more cosplay inspired looks!

The Aidah Gown pattern is available as a digital download from ScroopPatterns.com, and as a paper pattern from Virgil’s Fine Goods.